tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post3122792671804068038..comments2023-06-01T10:59:07.627+01:00Comments on Pits'n'pots: BBC QUESTION TIME IN STOKE-ON-TRENTTonyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09477240165204150850noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-36079199390489469642008-11-06T14:13:00.000+00:002008-11-06T14:13:00.000+00:00Could the folks who post on here get it through th...Could the folks who post on here get it through their heads that Lee Wanger is NOT a Member of The City Independents.<BR/>He is part of the Three Headed Monster formed to keep Labour and Roger Ibbs in power within The City Council.gobowenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14150544130446575478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-32415292158301970632008-10-22T07:20:00.000+01:002008-10-22T07:20:00.000+01:00Four Councillor spoke at this event – None of them...Four Councillor spoke at this event – None of them promoted the image of our City – Just on the Tele in order to boast their own self ego – thats Councillor Rigby(the fat controller - self appointed leader), Barnes(I hate meredith and I want to be leader) Billington (Clean my net curtains and I be the leader of the party) and (Hot wind coming from my mouth with NO Sense or chance of being leader) Davis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-90523673596847783402008-10-20T13:44:00.000+01:002008-10-20T13:44:00.000+01:00Terry Cope,The trouble with the question time is t...Terry Cope,<BR/><BR/>The trouble with the question time is that they take it round the country but don't get local MPs onto the panel and they certainly hardly let anything be asked or said about local issues. They think it's not going to interest people but I think it would be a bit of an eye opener if they did as I bet you'd find the same 'local' issues cropping up all over the place. (Have a listen to radio 4 Today program - academies - Tue or Wed this week I think.) I really like your idea of a local question time.nickyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11175542518100987466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-42602702152183398902008-10-20T09:28:00.000+01:002008-10-20T09:28:00.000+01:00After watching this much hyped programme I was lef...After watching this much hyped programme I was left dissapointed, where was Joan Walley, Rob Flello, or the other one (whose name escapes me at the moment)? Why were there not any local politicians on the panel instead of the dross we saw.<BR/>Local issues were sidetracked or just ignored, with pathetic excuses, by the panel.<BR/>It had all the hallmarks of a soap opera, well rehearsed, and stage managed.<BR/>Heres an Idea lets have a question time ourselves, with all the leaders of the groups on the council, and joe public asking the questions entirely about local issues, at least once a year.<BR/>Does anyone think the party leaders will be brave enough to face the public?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-44305167660098623552008-10-18T21:40:00.000+01:002008-10-18T21:40:00.000+01:00Craig, I know the East/West Precinct isn't really ...Craig, I know the East/West Precinct isn't really a part of this debate, but it would be interesting if someone (anyone on this blog!) could find out why we are having another bloody multi-screen cinema when the area is crying out for new facilities like, perhaps, an ice rink! The ones I've been to area always very popular, but you usually have to travel an hour to get to them. Why can't we have one in Stoke? It would give some of the young people (and families) something else to do.<BR/><BR/>Any ideas anyone on who has been "consulted" about these plans, and why we have another cinema foisted on us? I am willing to bet that no members of the public have been asked their opinion on what facilities they actually want to see at this new development. Can anyone put me right on this one?Alisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17978843267643174695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-29259983618547049352008-10-18T12:49:00.000+01:002008-10-18T12:49:00.000+01:00I disagree with Nicky's vie that Alan Rigby was a ...I disagree with Nicky's vie that Alan Rigby was a rounded politician that views political life in Stoke correctly.<BR/><BR/>Of which party does Rigby champion and why does he give the impression that coalition politicians are what Stoke needs?<BR/><BR/>His view that to vote for any party means, as Nicky interpretates, a 'Dictator Labour Mayor' is false.<BR/><BR/>You vote in any election who you want to, it doesn't matter.<BR/><BR/>YOU put this Mayor in by voting ina seperate election exclusive to Mayors and you get one for four whole years.<BR/><BR/>Nothing to do with Tory, bnp or independant wins everywhere.<BR/><BR/>To blame Councillors of any party for a mayor, is therefore wrong.<BR/><BR/>The very idea of mayor is that you put one in. So Rigby's notion of vote anyone in and you get labour is quite stupid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-47536463866841015742008-10-18T09:48:00.000+01:002008-10-18T09:48:00.000+01:00I've just seen the pictures of the proposed east, ...I've just seen the pictures of the proposed east, west precinct, and it looks great. But then I looked at what was being put into it.<BR/>A multi screen cinema??<BR/>How many multi screen cinemas do these people think we need. More cafes. How many cafes do we need?<BR/> Another multi storey carpark that will doubtless be used to outrageously fleece the drivers of this city. <BR/> This new building should be re-named the Blonde Centre. Great to look at, but empty of any ideas.brooneyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08858733156838423939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-27848315979812825312008-10-17T23:31:00.000+01:002008-10-17T23:31:00.000+01:00Tony, We do have different views on independent co...Tony, <BR/><BR/>We do have different views on independent councillors. I can see the point that if someone is attached to a party you may be able to guess what some of their views are but in practice it doesn't work out. Take Mayor Meredith, you'd think as he's labour he may have some amount of socialism left (although I guess labour gave that up with Blair), so you'd think he'd take ordinary people's views into account but he doesn't. Also take the labour/tory/libdem lot on the council, whatever one of those you want you're going to get their alliance, so are you really getting what you want? So in many ways you can't know what someone is going to do, independent or otherwise. I just listen to what people have to say and go by that irrespective of party. And I do like Cllr Rigby and I like quite a few of the other city independents also.<BR/><BR/>Craig,<BR/><BR/>Glad you liked the blog. It's pretty obvious the BBC fixed the questions. The TAG tried to make their questions as general and non-local education questions as possible but got nowhere. They possibly fix who gets on the program. A couple of TAG people admitted to being part of an action group but then didn't get into the audience. I didn't state that on my application but still didn't get in. But maybe they just google people as a matter of course and figure it out.<BR/><BR/>St. George,<BR/><BR/>I simply reported what Cllr Rigby said, but his description fitted pretty well with what I see. Maybe he and I are in a minority on that or just on the same wavelength, but that's ok with me. I fully understand that all these people are political and have their own motivations, but does that mean I shouldn't agree with anyone at all? Who would you expect me to agree with? And why shouldn't I say positive things when I agree with people? It would be daft for me to speak out in support of people I don't agree with (although that's maybe what some labour/tory/libdem councillors do day to day).<BR/><BR/>Nita, <BR/><BR/>Glad you liked it. It's a continual frustration that labour are pushing through their bsf program all around the country and there are other areas where it is being done badly as well, but it's all done as a 'local' thing all over the place. Academies too are being foisted on people all over. One of my other favourite councillors that someone will probably critcise me for liking, Cllr Kent-Baguley, sees that. Education ought to be important and I think they should have included at least a question at the end instead of the database question which wasn't nearly so serious as that will never go anywhere.nickyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11175542518100987466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-31385111853949618292008-10-17T21:31:00.000+01:002008-10-17T21:31:00.000+01:00There were BNP members in the audience, but no cou...There were BNP members in the audience, but no councillors or any other high profile members. In light of recent events and what's to come in the city a low profile was urged to prevent a repeat of a previous episode on QT involving a member of the party who didn't think before opening trap.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-85079084250668611532008-10-17T21:23:00.000+01:002008-10-17T21:23:00.000+01:00Nicky, thanks for the great blog! I watched this p...Nicky, thanks for the great blog!<BR/> <BR/>I watched this programme, and was waiting for a question on the BSF issues affecting Stoke on Trent, but No. This is one of probably the biggest major issues, and the BBC did not allow one question. Pretty disgusting really. Obviously they must think, Every Child Doesn't Matter. <BR/><BR/>I thought there was some excellent questions asked, some replies were good, and some were naff, to say the least.<BR/><BR/>One thing that annoyed me, was the chap who tried to blame Labour for losing the local industry. Forgive me here, but wasn't it Margaret Thatcher who played a major part in us losing our pits? Correct me if I'm wrong on this one. <BR/><BR/>Brooneyes, why was there no BNP Councillor, Candidate, Officer present? Do tell. <BR/><BR/>I only hope that the Councillors start finding their individual voices again. We the public want to know what Lab, Con, Lib, BNP, Ind have to say.nitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00834992101623704366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-35725358871647334192008-10-17T18:36:00.000+01:002008-10-17T18:36:00.000+01:00Both video links are like you, malformed. Nick Gri...Both video links are like you,<BR/> malformed.<BR/> Nick Griffin in the one video I could view, only looked about 14!!<BR/> Is this your proof of malfeasance? Ancient history dragged out of the closet by you raving lefy morons? This shows exactly how desperate you are when you can't get anything on the man that isn't 20 years old!<BR/><BR/> You have to ask yourself George,<BR/>are you the same person now that you were at 20?? I doubt it. I'm sure you were a completely different type of tosser back then.<BR/><BR/> The other thing you should take into consideration is that it is very unlikely Nick had any say over the guest list. This helps the BNP because it shows how pathetic you far left scum really are. And you in particular should die from shame for naming yourself St George. There is nothing patriotic or nationalistic in your views or your attitude.<BR/> Words fail me, and that doesn't happen very often.brooneyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08858733156838423939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-48552698869446397542008-10-17T16:22:00.000+01:002008-10-17T16:22:00.000+01:00Craig Pond"You ask what is the one thing that make...Craig Pond<BR/><BR/>"You ask what is the one thing that makes them stand out?<BR/>Not all muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are muslims."<BR/><BR/>Craig, I made it clear I have along memory. I seriously question if you have a brain.<BR/><BR/>All Watch<BR/><BR/>http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=04QolIvfQEw<BR/><BR/> <BR/>"BNP chairman Nick Griffin speaks to an audience of American Nationalists alongside David Duke of the blatantly Nazi American terror group the KKK, who have been responsible for dozens of savage killings and hate crimes in the USA. <BR/><BR/>In his speech Nick Griffin confirms that BNP strategy is to re-package and "sell" BNP ideas to British people. Nick Griffin confirms that, instead of using traditional far-right slogans about terror, hate, authoritarianism and violence, the new BNP strategy is to use "saleable words" like "freedom, security, identity, democracy" instead, while reassuring his (small) pro-KKK audience that the BNP's secret and real beliefs are still "your ideas too". <BR/><BR/>Nick Griffin admits that the long-term BNP goal of forcibly expelling all non-White Britons from the their homes is, for the time being, best served by "being rather more subtle" - because in the short-term, the BNP being HONEST about their real beliefs would get his party "absolutely nowhere". BNP chairman Nick Griffin dreams of a day when the BNP will "control the British broadcasting media", and when British people will (as a result) have been tricked into electing the BNP. In other words BNP chairman Nick Griffin dreams of a day when HE will control the British media, and when British people will have been tricked into electing HIM.<BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GfLS9...<BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdWY7l...<BR/><BR/>"Instead of talking about racial purity, we talk about identity" "Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-38929422175734664192008-10-17T15:58:00.000+01:002008-10-17T15:58:00.000+01:00St George, here are a coupe of things I thought yo...St George, here are a coupe of things I thought you should know.I<BR/>have never been on the show before, but knowing the blatant bias that the BBC display at every opportunity, especially towards the non-liberal, non-PC BNP, i didn't even try. The BNP have never been represented on that show.<BR/> <BR/> Which terrorists have been deliberately let in?! You have to be bloody joking! They've all been deliberately let in! There were 8 in the Met with extremist connections, they haven't been sacked, but if you get caught wearing a BNP badge, you'd better watch out! They know of thousands who have attended terrorist training camps, they haven't been deported, or shot!<BR/> You ask what is the one thing that makes them stand out?<BR/> Not all muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are muslims. All<BR/>the bloody lefties will be up in arms, but the one thing they have in common is they are all attached to islam. That's why I said, stop them from coming into the country in the first place,then the 52 people that died on 7/7, and the 750 that were injured, wouldn't have happened.brooneyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08858733156838423939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-70489636730200423832008-10-17T15:21:00.000+01:002008-10-17T15:21:00.000+01:00Nicky.Don't you see through this 'local' good BNP ...Nicky.<BR/><BR/>Don't you see through this 'local' good BNP councillor thing?<BR/><BR/>"that there were also very good BNP councilors who never mention racism and do everything that they should and need to do in their communities".<BR/><BR/>They are hopeless at reforming and challenging as policies go through, but then play politics with very public call-ins like the Longton and Trentham ones, when they know they are not affecting the decision, but can wind you all up politically.<BR/><BR/>Thats right Oracle, isn't it ??<BR/><BR/>And the egotistical windbag that is Cllr Rigby, is trying to be the next leader(ask Cllr Walker), and courts anyone who he thinks will help him...<BR/><BR/>Craig.<BR/>You know as do I that if you have been on before,they wont let you on again.<BR/><BR/>Also, the BNP have been on before, so why the conspiracy theory that you are being cut out ??<BR/><BR/>Craig<BR/>which terrorists have we deliberatly let in ?<BR/><BR/>What is the one thing that makes them stand out from the crowd, so we can stop them ??<BR/><BR/>Bare in mind, my memory is long, and I remember terrorism over the last 50 years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-37790278595642672562008-10-17T12:41:00.000+01:002008-10-17T12:41:00.000+01:00Another cracker Nicky!Note there were no BNP, cou...Another cracker Nicky!<BR/>Note there were no BNP, councillors, candidates, officers!<BR/>The Bigoted Bombay Corporation saw to that!<BR/> Hoon is, in the words of Tony, a twit(sic!)and that piece at the end about this database was insane!<BR/>Here's what someone should have said to him. If you want to protect the people from terrosts,<BR/>stop letting them in to the bloody country!<BR/> Dominic Grieve; why use one word when you can use twenty!<BR/> I thought that James Caan was best on the night, and agree completely with stopping this outsourcing of jobs. This is another thing the BNP said they would do.<BR/> As for the rest, for several years now, the BNP have been saying that we need to inwardly invest! kickstarting our local economy is going to be vital for this city, especially as we still don't know how hard this recession is going to hit, a recession I might add, that Hoon and the rest of the cabinet scroungers would have seen coming if the right checks had been in place! Allowing the derivitives market to run<BR/>uncontrolled was an immensely stupid thing to do, because if anything is going to bring the financial system crashing to the ground, derivitives are it!<BR/><BR/> Yes Nicky, the BBC do veto subjects for the show, and as you maybe saw from that obvious plant,<BR/>the muslim who was going thin on top, they aren't past racial manipulation either! Once again there was no BNP presence. Can't have the LibLabCon put in their place by proper politicians now, can we?<BR/> That loony from Newcastle who said what we needed was a coalition! Where's he been for the last 4 years, in a coma??<BR/>The last thing this city needs is more of the bloody same!<BR/><BR/> Overall, this show was what it usually is, shallow and one sided.brooneyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08858733156838423939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-54643762458531751942008-10-17T12:36:00.000+01:002008-10-17T12:36:00.000+01:00Nicky,Great blog! We obviously have different view...Nicky,<BR/>Great blog! We obviously have different views on Cllr Rigby! My earlier blog is based on my opinion of what an "independent" stands for!Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09477240165204150850noreply@blogger.com