tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post7014211855948589162..comments2023-06-01T10:59:07.627+01:00Comments on Pits'n'pots: THE MASTER RACE TO RULE STOKE!Tonyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09477240165204150850noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-82017927991094916312008-11-18T23:56:00.000+00:002008-11-18T23:56:00.000+00:00http://bnpmemberslist.blogspot.com/2008/11/su-to-s...http://bnpmemberslist.blogspot.com/2008/11/su-to-sz.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-63691892433671486002008-10-23T20:22:00.000+01:002008-10-23T20:22:00.000+01:00Craig, e-mail address? If they're posting anonymou...Craig, e-mail address? <BR/><BR/>If they're posting anonymously how would Tony have that? <BR/><BR/>Even if he did how would you track the person down based on an e-mail address? <BR/><BR/>Even an IP address would only get you to the nearest city.<BR/><BR/>So all you'd be able to find out from that info is that they live in...<BR/><BR/>... Stoke on Trent.<BR/><BR/>Oh, you're going to send someone threatening e-mails - click on the side and delete.<BR/><BR/>You need therapy because I'm pretty sure that anonymous ain't bothered by your threats because they know the chances of you finding them are about zip. That would also go for anyone registered on this site. <BR/><BR/>However, you're making threats and everyone knows who you are....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-46026286360538128982008-10-23T19:15:00.000+01:002008-10-23T19:15:00.000+01:00alison: same here very low turn out looks like Cll...alison: same here very low turn out looks like Cllrs that called for this £200,000 were well out of touch with residentsIan Norrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00788563566369423598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-74695395466565505472008-10-23T18:57:00.000+01:002008-10-23T18:57:00.000+01:00I have just been to vote (in Longton North ward), ...I have just been to vote (in Longton North ward), and the 2 council officials in the voting booth were reading newspapers, not a voter in sight.<BR/><BR/>I asked if they had had a busy day and they said the turnout hadn't reached 10% yet (that was at 5.40pm).<BR/><BR/>So it looks like no one in Stoke on Trent gives a sh*t about which system we get. But they'll be the first ones moaning when things don't go how they want them to.<BR/><BR/>At least I feel better for the fact that I've voted, not sure whether it will have been worth it yet (depends whether we get rid of Meredith and the ridiculous mayoral system that gives one man with an overinflated ego the final say and leaves 60 councillors paying lip service to their electorate.<BR/><BR/>I am shocked that so many people are totally disinterested in this referendum. Is it maybe because they don't feel anything will make any difference? If that's the case, then Stoke needs a lot of change, and I don't know where that change is going to come from. I despair.<BR/><BR/>I expect Craig et al will start bombarding me with "BNP will be our Saviour" posts - sorry Craig and colleagues - somehow I don't think so!!!Alisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17978843267643174695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-82773745370724661662008-10-23T18:37:00.000+01:002008-10-23T18:37:00.000+01:00I know Tony, just wanted the little rat to squirm ...I know Tony, just wanted the little rat to squirm for a minute.brooneyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08858733156838423939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-71225633704605244852008-10-23T18:19:00.000+01:002008-10-23T18:19:00.000+01:00st george: So you agree the Elected Mayor has been...st george: So you agree the Elected Mayor has been listening to Cllrs then? which kind of blows their arguement that they have no voice out of the Water.Ian Norrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00788563566369423598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-30330390413329785192008-10-23T16:52:00.000+01:002008-10-23T16:52:00.000+01:00CraigTap, tap! Computer says NO!! Cough, cough!!Se...Craig<BR/>Tap, tap! Computer says NO!! Cough, cough!!<BR/>Seriously I don't get any email addresses, anonymous or otherwise! Its called data protection!Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09477240165204150850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-59879753811176821082008-10-23T16:08:00.000+01:002008-10-23T16:08:00.000+01:00Update 3:I saw Paul Shotton buy some dog food then...Update 3:<BR/>I saw Paul Shotton buy some dog food then bin it in front of his dog. Does this qualify me for a free bottle of champagne?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-74675764114312567512008-10-23T15:52:00.000+01:002008-10-23T15:52:00.000+01:00I too voted No today and this is categorically NOT...I too voted No today and this is categorically NOT because I support our current elected mayor. I voted No because, for the life of me, I cannot see any current councillor who I would trust for the position of council leader (and one or two who, quite frankly, horrify me). I am hoping that, when the time comes to elect a mayor, someone comes forward with no political allegience who is a successful businessman with the strength of character, determination and visionary thinking that can lead this city out of the abyss that we are currently in. That will be the person who gets my vote.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-69833384392912414412008-10-23T15:47:00.000+01:002008-10-23T15:47:00.000+01:00Anonymous, you are a spineless turdand unless you ...Anonymous, you are a spineless turd<BR/>and unless you drop the insults or start using your name, you bloody coward, I'm going to get Tony to tell me who you are from your e-mail address. I'll pop round and you can say your poisonous rubbish to my face.....brooneyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08858733156838423939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-72094767238442864162008-10-23T14:50:00.000+01:002008-10-23T14:50:00.000+01:00William Wallace, that I 100% belive in a democracy...William Wallace, that I 100% belive in a democracy is the very reason I voted NO. With the system the way it is, we get to pick a leader. The problem at the moment is Merediths pig headedness, when it comes to the Mayoral vote he will be out the door.warrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12533934690660589601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-50807492080092746382008-10-23T12:59:00.000+01:002008-10-23T12:59:00.000+01:00Come on, get real, no-one's personal attacks are a...Come on, get real, no-one's personal attacks are as bad as Mr Pond's. Then he gets his apologist Terry Cope to come on and say it's because everyone keeps provocating him. What planet are that pair on? He's the instigator and Cope just blindly defends him!!! Before they even start their membership of the BNP doesn't even come into it, he's just plain rude.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-40207054724285120152008-10-23T12:52:00.000+01:002008-10-23T12:52:00.000+01:00I agree with this point as there seems to be a sud...I agree with this point as there seems to be a sudden decrease in litter prosecutions and parking tickets.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-25918678590193158342008-10-23T12:45:00.000+01:002008-10-23T12:45:00.000+01:00Ian"Again I ask any Anti-Mayor supporter name one ...Ian<BR/>"Again I ask any Anti-Mayor supporter name one recommendation made by Cllrs the Mayor has refused. "<BR/><BR/>Well he wont, will he.<BR/><BR/>He has been using most of theirs as he has none of his own.<BR/><BR/>And I know he is refusing to allow some difficult decisions to be made before the referendum, incase voters get upset !!<BR/><BR/>Thats good decisive leadership the mayor is supposed to bring - not!<BR/><BR/>Mr Breeze has totally lost the plot. But when ever you disagree with him, he rants like this. <BR/><BR/>His personal attacks are worse than Craigs !!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-59355566406182016092008-10-23T11:32:00.000+01:002008-10-23T11:32:00.000+01:00Warren: For someone who believes in Democracy, you...Warren: For someone who believes in Democracy, you just voted for the worst option.<BR/><BR/>Why is one voice more democratic than 60?<BR/><BR/>We know that one voice has more power for power's sake but when it is used to bypass democracy, you have to say the process is flawed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-41837639194233614902008-10-23T11:24:00.000+01:002008-10-23T11:24:00.000+01:00I will say it again, the office of Elected Mayor i...I will say it again, the office of Elected Mayor is good for this city, that is why I voted NO this morning. The problem at the moment is that it is in fact held by a foolish prat who sorounds himself with yes men.Kick him out next time and give it to someone with a bit of good public morals and we would not have a problem. For the city to have a BNP mayor would need citywide surport for the BNP and that will never happen. Paul, my balls are rolling down the street as we speak.With a yes vote we hand power over to the council to do what they want, and this council is to full of different ideers to do that, it would be worse, just think back a decade or so and see what Barry Stokley was up to, and that was with a massive Labour presance on the council, we dont need it again.warrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12533934690660589601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-75243551812348580392008-10-23T10:46:00.000+01:002008-10-23T10:46:00.000+01:00In a democracy people get the government that refl...In a democracy people get the government that reflects the electorate, whether it be viewpoint, policy or level of competence. <BR/><BR/>Therefore if the city gets a BNP mayor or a BNP led council that's because people in the city agree with them and what they stand for.<BR/><BR/>Likewise, if the mayor or the councillors are incompetent fools then it says the same about the city. That, or that people are just happy to let anyone run the city except themselves. Either way it reflects badly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-36454672675340293792008-10-23T10:10:00.000+01:002008-10-23T10:10:00.000+01:00I agree with the Joker.Something stinks here betwe...I agree with the Joker.<BR/><BR/>Something stinks here between the Mayor, Councillor Pervez and Chaudrey.<BR/><BR/>This was a blatant attempt at screwing the taxpayer and handing it to private business.<BR/><BR/>A brown envelope job.Dr.Doomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12693690337088689687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-83071879116507753372008-10-23T00:05:00.000+01:002008-10-23T00:05:00.000+01:00Nicky, it's got much worse, I'm now changing my mi...Nicky, it's got much worse, I'm now changing my mind on an hourly basis, ha ha! <BR/><BR/>Fingers crossed, by the time I reach the polling booth, my mind will be made up. Somehow, I don't think so.nitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00834992101623704366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-67107517029409633782008-10-22T23:55:00.000+01:002008-10-22T23:55:00.000+01:00Oracle, great vote yes blog.Former mayor supporter...Oracle, great vote yes blog.<BR/><BR/>Former mayor supporter, I got one of your vote yes leaflets through my door thank you very much. Sorry I did not have time to help the cause by distributing any. I did at least pop on the Sentinel web at lunchtime and distribute a lot of vote yes comments on articles and letters, which for the most part weren't censored for a change. Notice the absence in the leaflet of a contribution from Rob Flello; "he will vote yes but doesn't want to campaign on the issue", what a wet wimp! I wrote him an angry email on behalf of Trentham Action Group the other day, then wondered after if I'd taken it too far, it was a wee bit of a rant. Seeing that in the yes leaflet makes me glad I sent it. Plus I've since confessed and shown it to other TAG people (I don't know if you are one) and they thought it was just right. Notice Oracle doesn't think much of Flello either.<BR/><BR/>Nita! Have you settled on a decision yet or are you still changing your mind on a daily basis?<BR/><BR/>Tony, Ian, Alison, I guess all the missing voters in the Sentinel's silly poll figured they'd wait until they knew the system before having to decide how to vote for leader, they've got until May to sort it out haven't they. But that's where the BNP tactic came out on top, to decide unitedly at least for the sentinel publicity. You would think though that the others would have to plan who would stand for mayor, because I would have thought it is going to look best if candidates announce themselves on Friday if the result is mayor. I bet in that case we'll see a BNP announcement early. The others will just look like feeble ditherers if they don't do the same. Ian Norris, if it's a mayor system will you stand?<BR/><BR/>Anonymous 21:06 - No point rejoining the labour party. I Only tolerated it for a year, got no decent political debate, only persisitent requests for more money, when I'd paid my membership. Get far more quality debate on this site than I would in the labour party.nickyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11175542518100987466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-70319571279181229762008-10-22T22:36:00.000+01:002008-10-22T22:36:00.000+01:00Having met and had the misfortune of working with ...Having met and had the misfortune of working with Mo (wheres me handout) Chowdrey<BR/>Ask the ex residents of Coalville about him.<BR/>Anything that he is against I am probably for.<BR/>In principle the elected Mayor is a good thing and I feel we will get rid of it purely because of Meredith.<BR/>But as a genuine Stokie not parachuted in from West Mids I feel that our biggest issue is the total corruption and incompetence within our council. I have never worked with Fibbs but colleagues who have, count their fingers after meeting him. I have worked with many of the Labour councillors and I have at times been embarassed at their lack of vision, limited intellect and total self interest. Labour politics John Prescott style.Debbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06759837377069086094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-24946113181120178022008-10-22T22:23:00.000+01:002008-10-22T22:23:00.000+01:00Alison: Dictatorship ?Again I ask any Anti-Mayor s...Alison: Dictatorship ?<BR/><BR/>Again I ask any Anti-Mayor supporter name one recommendation made by Cllrs the Mayor has refused. Or any recommendation from the Mayor voted against by Scrutiny or Full Council.<BR/><BR/>There are NONE... Cllrs can vote as thee choose, anything thatshappened over the last 5y yrs has been with the WILL of mayority of Cllrs. ESP Dimensions read<BR/><BR/>http://www.moderngov.stoke.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.asp?CId=403&MId=1712&J=6<BR/><BR/>"The Chair commented that much of the budget was about cost cutting and that he was very concerned about the proposals. He expressed his view that the proposals amounted to privatisation through the back door. He expressed deep concern about the future of swimming pools within the City and envisaged a future where swimming pools were run solely by the private sector. He suggested that the best way to save money was to make better use of existing resources/facilities."<BR/><BR/>But still agreed to it instead of Voting for its removalIan Norrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00788563566369423598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-6967373406299618812008-10-22T21:21:00.000+01:002008-10-22T21:21:00.000+01:00BNP may win in Stoke but they will always be confi...BNP may win in Stoke but they will always be confined both regionally and socially, and will never get power nationally. Does anyone honestly believe that those in the higher tax bracket are going to want a government that takes from them to give to dole dossers who can't be arsed getting a job. Get real.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-60677424531903976252008-10-22T21:06:00.000+01:002008-10-22T21:06:00.000+01:00Rejoin the Labour Party - Lets have a debate withi...Rejoin the Labour Party - Lets have a debate within the local Party about Education - Change the policyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7272174149265458740.post-88706120063817036622008-10-22T20:32:00.000+01:002008-10-22T20:32:00.000+01:00Ian Norris, thanks for this comment, but if I vote...Ian Norris, thanks for this comment, but if I vote NO, then we are once more stuck with a Dictatorship Mayor for 4 YEARS - I make that October 2012 (or is that May 2013?). Surely in May 2010 we could vote in some DECENT councillors, not the mob we've got now. And isn't there some stuff about single member wards etc and only 40 councillors under this new governance system? <BR/><BR/>It's within our power to make sure these 40 councillors are accountable to the electorate in May 2010. <BR/><BR/>What appears to be blatantly obvious is that NO-ONE in this City or even in London can make the Elected Mayor accountable. It is a dictatorship which I personally will be ver glad to see the back of.<BR/><BR/>That said, I have concerns about today's Sentinel article (nice timing!), where some councillors don't even know who they would vote for as Leader. This worries me greatly - if they can't make a decision on that, what can they make a decision on?Alisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17978843267643174695noreply@blogger.com