As regular contributors to this blog are aware, I'm no supporter of the BNP, but I sometimes wonder if they have got it right on issues like illegal immigrants, when you read stories like we have in today's Sentinel (Click Here)
Three illegal Vietnamese workers have been caught working in two Hanley Nail Bars. One has been deported and the other two face certain deportation pending the completion of the investigations.
As a responsible employer myself, I know how important it is that our businesses remain competitive, but the use of illegal workers is completely unfair to those of us who run legitimate companies.
The manager of one of the two shops raided stated that she used an illegal worker because she came into the country already trained, where if she had employed a British worker she would have had to invest time and money training them.
You have to wonder whether these workers were being paid cash in hand, if they were then the government is being denied the appropriate tax and national insurance that would be due to them, so in a way it's a double whammy!
The UK Border Agency must be applauded for the way it is managing these issues and it proves that the government are serious about the issue of illegal workers and are taking strong action in dealing with the problem. Recently an Australian points system has been introduced and ID cards for foreign nationals.
Companies who take the gamble of employing illegal workers face a fine of up to £10000 per worker if they are caught.
So over to you, are you, like me heartened by the governments hard line on illegal workers?
Do you welcome the Governments recent introduction of a new system in dealing with foreign nationals who want to come to our country?
What more can be done to ensure that people who come to our country do so legally?..........
Monday, 3 November 2008
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We need a full scale deportation programme set up immediately against all illegal immigrants.
The Governments own figures state that the illegals are going up, so there's the problem.
Gordon Brown keeps letting in people from the third world by the millions.
It was Blair that let the floodgates of peoples from the third world, when he refused to say if he would end immigration!
You have to look at each story like this and think about it, and these three sould be given a one way tickett each back home. There is no problem in Vietnam now, even the Nahplam puddels must have been cleand up,most of the landmines gone off, blowing oxen sky high and the Yanks have not boomed it for over 30 years. The skills that these three have would also be held by meny young girls in this country, so it hardly takes Sherlock Holmes to work out that in the climet we have at the moment, the slanty eyed little buggers sould not be hear.( Sorry about that outbust) Sometimes its good to talk plain English.
As for the manager who did not wish to invest time traning British workers, I hope he/she goes out of business right raped like. Its so unfair on well ran companies and British workers.Lets face it, the service thay are surpleying is handly important.
What is hapening to the manager who employed these people,she should face the maximum fine to deter others from doing the same.
My bet is they were used as cheap labour.
Labour created this problem and are not capable of solving it, so I don't have faith in their poor efforts.
Our borders are too open, and need to be closed to all except genuine refugee's.
Although all of them have travelled through known safe countries to get here.
This is not a race issue, we cannot cope with the present number of immigrants.
Our schools, housing, and hospitals, are under pressure.
Add to that we are in a recession and the obvious conclusion is we are full up,and can take no more.
Well said real Terry, I couldn't have put it better myself.
That's why I'm the monkey and your the organ grinder!
If they were illegal then they won't have been paying tax, which means they were working cash in hand, which means that Brits have been done out of jobs that should have been provided by these shops.
If they aren't doing the indigenous population any good, confiscate the premises and equipment. We need to send out a message that enough is enough, and this foreign malarky won't be accepted any longer.
I cannot believe, that this business owner is trying to say, she could not get the workers from this country to do the job, as it would mean spending more money on training.
Well, what have all these students been doing at college, and university? Getting the qualifications of course. Surely, if they take a beauty course, they are taught how to do nails? I remember, my friend took a course, many many years ago, and she had the training. Jobs are hard to come by, as it is, and what an insult to those that have got the qualifications, to hear, that a business would rather employ someone that is illegal.
I can only think, that it was cheaper to employ these people.
We cannot allow businesses to get away with this. It is not fair on the Company's that are playing it by the book. Were these people being paid cash in hand, thus avoiding paying tax? A thorough investigation is required.
Yet again, we hear, "they held the correct papers". There is something seriously wrong somewhere, and to say, they have to really tighten up, is an understatement.
Terry , Craig, what this I'm hearing on ol' Nick Griffin and his lot trying to brocker a deal with UKIP. Looks like a bit of a sell out to me.
Warren, UKIP is on the verge of implosion as a challenge against
that grinning idiot, Nigel Farage
is about to be tabled. And what a challenge! It calls into doubt his
drive, his honesty- there are questions over his allowances and expenses claims as an MEP- his ability to front this one trick pony to any kind of electoral success. The BNP asked the UKIP members to come and join us as we are the only other party that would withdraw this country from the EU. There are a lot of decent, genuine people in that party, it's a shame to see their passion go to waste.
Warren, ain't heard anything about that, will check it out and give you my opinion on it mate.
Warren have you been posting on Sentinel webbsite, bcause the jokers useing statements that have been made on this site, under several names?
Yeah Craig, what a good idea, close the shops and do the indigenous folk that also work there out of a job. Fucking excellent idea. Just the sort of short sighted logic we expect.
Bill,
what indigenous workers? They were paying illegal immigrants to work there in order to get around not paying tax, how bloody stupid are you? Open your eyes. If that's how these shops were run, there wouldn't be any indigenous workers there, it's cheaper to use illegals. And why not confiscate their equipment?
Leave it in place and they'll only do it again. At least the money gained from selling their equipment might go some way to paying for the police investigation, or even into paying for tickets home for these people.
I think Bill means all the people that were employed by these shops ie their British workers. Just because 3 Vietnamese were picked up doesn't mean the entire workforces of these places were illegal or even foreign. Thanks for illustrating how thick you are. More ammo against the local BNP. IF you had any sense and wanted to see your party become more successful then may be you'd just shut up instead of helping the case of your opposition.
But keep up the good work Craig, I'm sure some of your quotes/rants will be used against you at a later date.
Not BNP, here's a quote for you,
Pucker up, and kiss me right between the back pockets.
Ay up, Tinkerbells back.
I am so looking forward to the day when I find out who you are.
What, all of us?
That's a threat of physical violence by Mr Pond, I do believe that's illegal, it called threatening behaviour. If the hosts of this site don't take action then they'll get reported. You have 24 hours to ban Mr Pond before the authorities are notified - provocation or not there's no excuse.
Sorry it taken so long to get back to this, not to well at all yesterday, felling much better now. I thank Terry and Craig for there responce to my question. Come on, some of these postings need to be gone, pits and pots, do the job, this site is for debate, not outragus insults.Ever likely Craigs resurting to theats, I'm not a vilent person, dont think Crage nither is by the way, but Jusus, its anought to get anyone what to cave someones head in. Terry the last time in had a look at the other site was Monday, I did'nt see anything about you then bud, if I catch wind of the buggers, let you know, and ofcourse have a go at them myself.
Craig, I hate to break it to you, but it looks like people are trying to wind you up and are succeeding very well. It's pretty obvious that like the fake T Copes there is more than one person signing themselves off as "Craig Pond is dole scrounging ****". They may even be setting you up by provoking you that much that you do do something stupid. It's no-one's business but maybe if you told people what you did for a living that name would die away very quickly.
Unfortunately everyone knows exactly who you are and if the person threatening the law is honest in their intent I would have to agree that pitsnpots needs to ban you for your own sake. You are your own worst enemy and like some posters have said the best argument against the BNP.
Martin, it's pretty obvious that people are coming on here to either wind BNP members up or pretend they're BNP members and post overtly racist comments to try and make the BNP look as bad as possible. Worst of it is, like you say the BNP members actually DO bite back and confirm what alot of people suspected about them despite the image makeover.
Sorry it taken so long to get back to this, not to well at all yesterday, my arse was sore from Craig's penis, fealing much better now. Fuck off Terry and Craig for there response to my question. Come on, some of these postings need to stay up, pits and pots, do the job, this site is for outrageous insults. Ever likely Craig's resorting to rimming, I'm a violent person, think Craig is by the way, but Jesus, its enough to get anyone into rimming. Terry the last time in Craig's arse I had a look at his insides, I didn't see anything left from you then bud, if I catch wind of the farts, let you know, and of course have a go at farting myself.
LOL...silly old bugger.
Nice to see you have a sence of humour, Warren.
Others don't, like Craig who flys into diva-esque rages!
I'm going to find out who all of you are and beat the living shit out of you, spineless mother fucking turd pieces of colon excrementing shite.
Why has that comment not been removed when it's obviously a fake trying to stir things up. If I'd put a comment up about rimming that would soon get removed.
I rimmed Craig good and proper last night. We might have a go at tromboning tonight, or even a bit of tea-bagging.
I'm absolutely disgusted at these comments, "rimming", "tromboning", "tea-bagging".
Like I said, absolutely disgusted...that I wasn't invited to this NAZI themed gay orgy party!
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